Not sure why I didnt expect this or was told this. Own this and you may be surprised, if nothing else you will have evolved as a man. Should I lie/not mention LASIK when I finally go to MEPs? Talk openly with your recruiter, MEPS staff, and your family. I am perfectly health for Army service and will be telling hte MEPS doctors that *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. My recruiter sent a 10 page report from the doctor along with the 'Refractive Eye Surgery Checklist' paper my recruiter gave me. So what are the lessons from these stories? I went through in 2011 after Lasik. I plan on waiting the 6 months. My 90 day period was more like 2 months, because that's when they called me back for a followup, so it wouldn't have made sense (distance traveled and financially) to go back a month later for a '90 day' followup. Know preoperative, operative, and postoperative . We have been contacted by major union legal teams regarding this issue. If it won't come up again or if you don't need a TS-SCI, you can get away with not telling. HELP!!!! Retired in '02 as a Senior Chief(E-8 for you landlubbers). He. Generally speaking, no. If people can lie about weed I dont see any moral dilemma about you lying about ADHD. It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action. You need to provide all documents not just a cover letter or info sheet. A recent post made me think of these questions. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. When we started to fill out similar questions with the recruiter I started saying 'yes' on some of the questions. However, herein lies the problem. They need to have a psychologist evaluate everyone at meps. Fraudulent Enlistment. Any advice? A magnifying glass. Everyone I know lied about something, he'll if everyone was honest about drug use there wouldn't be a military. Once you have gone through initial questioning phases with your recruiter and have discussed your options, your recruiter will set an. I just finished MEPS after having LASIK.I had to provide all medical documentation from the surgery (pre-op, post-op information, etc.) Most major airlines are in negotiations at this time, and many are contentious. I got both of these surgeries in order to be a seal, and would fucking hate if the reason I can't get in are the very surgeries I got in order to qualify for training. Some people really really want to join, and they'll try anything. If they don't find anything during their examinations, you should be good to go. I genuinely had not considered that the way I'm acting could be considered morally suspect, or aggravating to the recruiter. I have ADHD and a prescription but function perfectly fine off the meds bc ADHD does not effect me much at all anymore. If your eyes are otherwise healthy, the services will usually waive up to 5 diopters of cylinder (astigmatism). Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Or should I be honest with my recruiter and if I cant get a waiver, lie at MEPS. The suicide counselor for the cousin recognized that our young man was confused and worried from his family's recent crisis. Know how to find the right doctor. I feel like this is a test so see if I won't bother to accrue some letters regardless and I'm not sure what to do. Handle this the right way, as you should all things. Now the most commonly performed eye laser surgery, LASIK involves creating a partial-thickness corneal flap and using an excimer laser to ablate the bed of the cornea. A slight delay in schedule will not change your end game. In my experience meps isn't that deep of a medical check and it's fairly disorganized. Lying will. Can You Fix a Lie on Your SF-86 Questionnaire? Handle this the right way, as you should all things. Want to learn about deploying, finances, mental health, cross-rating, and more? 1. Did I Lie at MEPS??! Some typical things that people lie about at MEPS include: Medical History I was honest at MEPS. It indicates, "Click to perform a search". They may lie about behaviors, charges, and other possible information that could disqualify them from enlisting in the military. With his counselor, they decided he should try medication (Sertraline/Zoloft) for control of his symptoms. We lost quite a few, we were down to just a few of us by graduation. : r/USMCboot. And you'll be sidelined forever. For every one of these little vignettes there is an outstanding Soldier, Sailor, Airperson or Marine that said "No" when asked, and is out there doing outstanding shit. I got LASIK a few months ago, I know the minimum time from surgery to MEPs has to be at least 6 months. No. Do not attempt to interpret the questions your recruiter and MEPS will ask you--answer them as they are written. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I haven't seriously considered joining a branch since my accident in 2003, but it still crosses my mind from time to time. Downside, potentially get caught, hit with fraudulent enlistment, permanently disqualified. A young man decided to join the Air Force and contacted a Recruiter. The girl with the suicide attempt would not be allowed to enlist today though. The military is used to this, and they really don't care down the road. 48.8K. !, Military Life and Issues, 8 replies Lying scumbag Johnson on MSNBC lying-no challenge from host, Elections, 31 replies 27. And also a expunged ticket and felony charges. Let's all throttle back a bit. Applicants often need further evaluation or counseling before they can live the rigorous and stressful military lifestyle. I played my "sax" a lot in basic. Though would documentation from a psychologist count as documentation from a doctor bc I dont know how familiar doctor at a hospital would be with something related to a different field of medicine. (if I do that then I would have to get all medical records I gave to them). Accidentally or on purpose are applicable. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. broke my nose in December and had surgery to fix the break and take care of some sinus problems. #12. As long as you werent taking the pills within 90 days it wont pop up so just dont talk about them. How do you think they would perform in a deployment, or at a remote assignment like Turkey or Greenland, or if they married and their future spouse later divorced them? I even believed that my OR would appreciate my persistence in trying to get more info while he is on leave this week. It seems like the most important mission of the army right now its safety and risk management, and with that in mind, it doesn't seem even remotely worth the risk. If I were you I would lie and say it's from a camping trip or something. These include conditions like depression, bipolar disorder, epilepsy, heart issues, Asperger's, and PTSD. I informed my recruiter of this incident and he told me not to mention it to MEPS because it won't come back in a police check being so recent. Doctors said I had asthma growing up, my recruiter said don't mention it, he was probably jumping to conclusions. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. I am going into the marines and have a contract to go to security school where you need a TS if you complete it. Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Not disclosing information at MEPS - Advice Needed. Idk if the policy is 1 or 3 years, Ive encountered both. Okay, so I need some advice. 03-10-09, 06:54 PM #10. redsox1804. How about this: Lying to join the military is a fraudulent enlistment and can result in a felony conviction. One of those better to ask for forgiveness than permission situations it seems. Please don't sabotage your own union's efforts on your behalf. and was it a mistake for being honest at MEPS? You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. MEPS, short for Military Entrance Processing, rolled out a new system yesterday called MHS Genesis. Personally, go find another doctor that is ex-military that can weed through the BS. Major unions have lost court cases and in one instance suffered severe financial damage in the process. Be the first to receive exciting news, features, and special offers from Bodybuilding.com! Do you think that they would have been able to successfully cope with these circumstances following the earlier problems? While there, he experienced the emotionally stressful and physically demanding environment of being a Trainee at Lackland AFB. TL; DR Anyone with experience of LASIK eye surgery documentation sent to MEPS. 21 years active duty,kept my mouth shut about stuff that just did not need to be amplified. The suicide counselor recommended he also consider seeing his own counselor. I swear I've met more dudes getting chaptered in the infantry for mental problems (like a few guys are mentally insane) than I ever imagined. After seeing the counselor for about 3 months, he was diagnosed with Dysthymia and Social Anxiety Disorder (SAD). Am I in danger like my friend said? For candidates lurking here, seeing how the post might apply to their own application, whether for SA or ROTC or OCS: If you have to ask should I Iie, then you already know the answer. The main difference between them is that with LASIK, a corneal flap is created and replaced, and with LASEK, the top layer of the cornea is loosened, moved, and reattached. First, you are the one liable WHEN you get busted lying. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. May 14, 2016 Just a note, if you decide to lie about it, you need to be sure that you won't let it slip sometime later. He hadn't been "prescribed" an anti-depressant because he only took some medicine on a short, trial basis. Below are abstractions of a true stories. Unless someone wants to send the mods proof of their M.D., and dig into medical history, you have no business declaring whether or not anyone's medical condition is non-serious, important, real, or anything else. First, you didn't believe your OR so you called his boss who said the same thing, and then you come here looking for validation of the opposite advice. My recruiter went the other direction, really stressed "Make sure you disclose EVERYTHING". ), Arborry Hill Road Company, LLC Copyright 2006-2023, Service Academy Forums is a registered trademark of Arborry Hill Road Company, LLC. She passed all the exams and was cleared, then went to BMT and performed well. They don't understand this stuff. For some reason the Pacific breeze didnt reach that area. We all come to this website for information and most of us have been corrected on our approach by the main contributors in some fashion. My gramma always told me I had to be able to look at myself in the mirror, and know that if I couldn't-- I wouldn't sleep well at night. What should I do. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. She got counseling for the suicide gesture and related stress, which eventually resolved, and she again received more counseling for anger management a few years later (this was what the BMT medics discovered). It does not belong to any particular service division. from USMCboot. I don't suggest lying, but literally almost everyone I know of has lied about something. Don't they pull your medical records, or did this happen after they checked? They might nowWhy would you pose a question on a public website. He runs like 6 miles a day on it perfectly capable. Make it impossible to lie? You probably dont even have ADHD because they hand out those diagnoses to kids like Candy. What is the worst that can happen? Nice guy and not pushy. 2. The purpose of this script is to help protect users from doxing, stalking, and harassment. Recruiter told me to lie . Should I just wait for him to contact me? Free online program to promote the safety and well-being of military families. So if you do lie and something goes wrong at buds, they do have the right to dig through your medical history and they will probably find out about the surgery and lasik. I lied at MEPs about multiple things, I don't think it has affected my ability to be a soldier. Integrity is what you do or how you act when no one is watching. If you lie about it at MEPS, and get Lying at MEPS, HIPAA and security clearances. Press J to jump to the feed. You must log in or register to reply here. Buy, Sell, and Trade your Firearms and Gear. After a few weeks, he began to complain of chest tightness, shortness of breath, and tunnel vision, which are classic signs of Exercise Induced Asthma (EIA), a potentially disqualifying condition. This is my reaction as I am. As above: the truth is easy to remember, keep consistent and coordinate with others. I knew she couldn't hack it but she joined anyways). This experience also likely caused further stress and worsened his long-term mental health because he was suddenly out of a multi-year career, and wasted many weeks of his and the Air Force's time. He stopped seeing the counselor after only 6 months from beginning counseling and successfully continued his college education. I know I have to be able to function without medication and I can, but have not been consistently been of the medication simply because of the existence of standardized tests should I lie to my recruiter and say that while I have such a prescription I have been off it for atleast the minimum time period states or should I be honest because in reality it doesnt take a long time to get off a medication completely atleast for ADHD medications which are stimulants and what they dont know wont hurt them because my ADHD does not really effect me much at all anymore. It allows MEPS to see your entire Electronic Health Record (EHR). After a long conversation with my doc he said there is no way for them to find out unless you tell them. I have been 100% honest with my paperwork. One guy kept getting ahold of his prrsonal items somehow and got caught playing a saxophone in the barracks. Its in your best interest to get through MEPS. A forum to discuss Navy Recruiters, processing at MEPS, Delayed Entry Program, Enlisted Ratings, "A" Schools, Officer Candidate School, Recruit Training Command, and transferring to your first command. About 3 years before joining the Air Force, his cousin attempted suicide. You need to disclose it. Stuck waiting for MEPS to process my info from Military to Military as well as MEPS to MEPS. Downside, you might take a bit longer to get the green light to process and might also have to get documentation from your doctor that you don't need your meds anymore. This comment has been overwritten by this open source script to protect this user's privacy. So ur saying stay off the pills for 90 days and I doesnt come up?how? I have enough money saved to get the surgery, and I'm willing to wait the 180 days, but I don't know how available that waiver is, and my OR doesn't recommend doing anything that will create more hurdles for me to get past at MEPS, stating each hurdle decreases my chances of becoming an officer. Processing Stations (MEPS) Your visit to a Military Entrance Processing Station (MEPS) determines your mental aptitude, as well as physical and moral qualifications for enlistment in the Army. Maybe from 2001-2007 or so she could. You may need further evaluation or counseling before you can live a rigorous military lifestyle. This applies to ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, withdrawal of enthusiasm (WOE), sickouts, etc. Long story short, I broke my nose in December and had surgery to fix the break and take care of some sinus problems. View Profile View Forum Posts View Blog Entries View Articles View Gallery Uploads Marine Friend . MEPS' job is the same as the recruiter's job. Discomfort after surgery is minimal, and vision recovery usually takes place in 1 to 2 days. Went to MEPS the next morning and everything was normal until medical debriefing. Adhd is no big deal, however if it's serious I would lie. You have runs risk that a Soldier could not live with. The forms tell you that you must disclose it. First, psychiatrists, psychologists, and sometimes doctors might not directly tell their patients their actual diagnoses because of the stigma and fear surrounding Mental Health. I wasn't aware of the 3 months check. Also, if that user name is actually your name it's a sign that you might not really be very good at this subterfuge thing. My ex, who was batshit crazy, probably Bi-polar and was on meds most of her teen life lied about it ALL at MEPs. This applies to ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, withdrawal of enthusiasm (WOE), sickouts, etc. So do you think the cost is worth the benefit? Yes, you need to be caught in the lie, but that isn't as difficult as you might think. They don't understand how a broken leg or asthma when they were a kid can come back, they don't understand how mental issues are severely exacerbated under stress-- because they think their phone breaking is stress, and they dealt with that just fine. When I went to MEPs, like most people, I had something to lie about. If you can not look at yourself in the mirror in the morning it was the wrong decision. They said "No problem, we'll work around it." Your insistence on snapping back or being defensive only adds evidence to a immaturity that will not serve the military. Lasik and Meps processing Currently trying to fill out a packet for OCS, but my recruiter informed me that meps declined my medical history. It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action. Last I knew, which granted was probably close to a decade ago, it was strictly forbiddenonly PRK was allowed. They determined she only had typical "walking" pneumonia, meaning she would just be held back for 1-2 weeks and join another BMT flight to graduation. Delayed my ROTC scholarship for a semester, biggest pain in the ass. I know a guy who lied about lasik because he didn't want to wait 6 months and nobody at meps found out. This was the man who my friend had confessed his pot usage to when we first showed up a month ago, but now my friend lied to him and he accepted the lie without hesitation. Dont lie. If you are denied entry to the military, it is very possibly the best thing for both you and the government. A forum to discuss Navy Recruiters, processing at MEPS, Delayed Entry Program, Enlisted Ratings, "A" Schools, Officer Candidate School, Recruit Training Command, and transferring to your first command. In my experience meps isn't that deep of a medical check and it's fairly disorganized. She could have been honest about her history and told the Recruiter, who would have told MEPS, who would have requested a waiver, and she would have had a chance at a waiver by doing some additional evaluation. The wrist has handled push ups every other day since I was cleared to get back to it and my eyes are perfect, but I'll know for sure at 6 months. Tough but that is what it is when they find out. Thanks! Quite a few of the guys in my squadron had a screw lose. Some background, I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was younger and thus have ADHD and have a prescription for but find that I dont really need it for things other than standardized tests which is not really al that ADHD related Im just a bad test taker. She could have been honest about her history and told the Recruiter, who would have told MEPS. Keratinous is NOT trifling; it is the major cause for corneal transplant in the US-a very expensive medical issue. Come visit our wiki over in r/Navy. MEPS stands for Military Entrance Processing Station. I was completely honest and I served honorably for 8 years. Lied at MEPs about mental health history and drug history. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Because of his failure to disclose his medical history at MEPS and it's discovery while he was on Medical Hold, he was administratively discharged from the Air Force without completing BMT for Fraudulent Enlistment. She joined the army and just before graduating AIT she decided the Army wasn't for her (I told her not to do it, but did she listen? As a reminder, this subreddit is for civil discussion. Yes. Let's Talk 3..e-mail: nathaliemunoz@live.comSubject "Let's Talk" you can send me anything you want from any topic!Previous LET'S TALK:1. https://goo.gl/jim. Good luck to you. SSG Sean Donahue - Though your verbiage is way bolder than mine (my post on this issue is above) I fully agree with you!!!! What's the deal? What Is The Biggest Lie You Ever Heard, Told Or Someone Told You? Should I lie and say the scar is from an accident like jumping over a fence that needed stitches? They'll simply deny him enlistment and move-on. Instead, she had abysmal chances for waiver approval because she never got the additional examination needed for a waiver (plus lying isn't helpful to a case), so she was separated despite the recommendation of her MTI. Know what makes you a poor candidate. How do recruiters get medical records to MEPS for a med read? He did well on the entrance exams and was motivated to succeed. Option 1: Being truthful and working a waiver that is doable. Take the advice and think on it. If it had been correctly disclosed, he likely would have required a waiver and additional counseling before joining the Air Force. The medics at BMT requested and reviewed her civilian medical records to possibly determine the cause and any history of the condition. In the end, I did everything I could to prove I was completely fine. Currently trying to fill out a packet for OCS, but my recruiter informed me that meps declined my medical history. My only option is to wait another month just to go back to get a 'check up', costing me precious time and money again, without insurance, pushing back my MEPS appointment another month or two. One of the worst things in the world is getting a fraudulent enlistment discharge after making it through 2 months of boot. So I left his office and my recruiter took me to up to the hotel. The criminal background check and security clearance investigations can and do find sealed records. In hindsight, had I known this disaster of 'hurry up and wait' would happen I would have waited another month to check in. She wanted to get out so bad she went full retard, doing something dishonorable to get thrown out on a general discharge. Further, he won't be able to enlist nor commission in any branch of the military ever again. You may need further evaluation or counseling before you can live a rigorous military lifestyle. 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