Time. } else if (w.attachEvent) { I like the sentiment; the phrase just seems so grammatically tortured that I wonder how and why its caught on. Yeah, I never know what to do when you get something and Thanks! isnt really appropriate as a reply, but there isnt really much to say in reply. As it is, Im asking my recipient how they want me to reconcile the A and B that theyre asking for, not because Im blaming them or am throwing their request back into their court, but because I genuinely want to work together with them to find a feasible solution. Because it's a special occasions. Only because the former co-worker that sent it was constantly nagging me and it felt like she was using it in lieu of I need your input on this now. Please let me know when everything is ready. The result is now that my partner and I needful each other all the time. However, I also think that in many cases, people like to use fancier language in writing because they think it makes them look smarter or more professional or something. No need to rub the needful in! If the sender shows signs of taking my work for granted in other ways, or is just generally annoying, sometimes the grrr is mentally capitalized, bolded, italicized, and/or underlined. By continuing to use this website, you agree to our Terms of Service. But I do thank them afterwards too. ), Oh, and our organization likes to close emails with Very Respectfully. This is now off of my plate until I hear from you (tagyoure it). 2. or Request you to note the dates and let us know way forward. Most of the email is explaining the situation, then please advise.. Then the email request gets ignored by everyone thinking someone else will do it until the LW actually points a finger and say, that means YOU, Wakeen. If I have asked a series of questions, I put a final, actionable question at the end. Today more than 1001 people got their English checked. No. I worked at a hospital with thousands of employees and some erroneous email went out to the entire hospital listserv (I dont even remember the original email), and for DAYS we kept getting emails from people saying Please take me off this email chain! and Please stop hitting reply all! DAYS OF THIS. Please let me know which option you prefer 6,500 results on the web Some examples from the web: So will you please let me know . But obviously it struck a nerve with me, because Ive been thinking about it all day. We can either 1) switch to white chocolate 2) continue with milk chocolate or 3) form a team to identify new chocolate options. no seriously, when you send a lot of emails to lots of people needing input, decisions, updates, etc, you have few options to close your email, so you trot these out often. I am impressed. Ok, whoops. This is what I generally do. I occassionally use please advise if I think the reader may miss various points in my email that is actually a question. Yea see because you made a statement rather than ask a question. And finally: you will be intimated, meaning you will be informed. I dont order them to call me. Mar 31, 2012 5:50 AM. Complete. Some people dont read the entirety of an email and may not realize they need to respond. Are they consulting you as an expert who has information they dont have? T eilen Sie mir bitte auch mit, wel che Zahlungsweis e fr Sie gnstig ist - entweder. Ive been working in an administrative role for the past two years and have found your blog very helpful. And a section called the hazards of over thinking. What else was I supposed to say? What/how about Monday for lunch? I dont say make sense? in emails but I do say it when explaining something to employees in person. Attempt to manage you/assign tasks and they arent your manager? Our supplier says it is now y. The opposite way is: knoweldgabley explain something factual and then use make sense? to see if the other person is following you. This answer is: Hide . if you want. And I never, ever, raised an issue or sent an email to that manager again. I know everyone has pet peeves, but for OP to think that its annoying and childish for using a phrase she doesnt like is a bit over the top. Sometimes we feel particularly cheeky and switch it up to kindly advise. The sender was supposed to gather enamel samples to base a decision on, but flaked on doing it. 2. Some physicians can get a bit touchy about being questioned by a pharmacist, so I use please advise because it can help sooth feelings and imply that they are still in charge. I think Ive caught myself doing this a few times but I realize it before I send it out. And what should I do next? to me. I like my subject lines clear and concise so I can quickly find it while quickly browsing in my archives. Ive received what are your thoughts? / please advise / do you have input/feedback? and all of them seemed appropriate to the situation. For example, Ill try to call one of my peers. Thats exactly how it strikes me. Ill use Please advise when forwarding a question from one party to another when I dont know what question needs to be asked. You do not become a priority to him by making him your priority. is this FYI, or is there a question or task buried somewhere in here for me?. My boss uses this and tells me to use it. My current manager is really fond of the smiley faces in outlook, so I have a rule button that replies to messages with just a smiley face. WTF is wrong with you? ooooo! It definitely gets results. Or let someone else unemployed for months have your job instead? He became legendary and it always lightened the tone of the email. (I got that salutation a lot from coworkers in my office but rarely from folks in other offices.) RELATED ( 3 ) let me know your favourite. I need to put in the order for either blue and green enamel for next months collector teapot, and I know you met with Jane about the collector line last Tuesday. They are synonymous phrases, so sure, but I like please advise better. 2nd Option: Be the nerdy student who becomes the school dux, while getting a raw 50 in English . YES!!! I admit Ive never heard of this interpretation of that closing. Do they already have cause the be upset with you? Except with the way you worded it, youre implying that your boss *has* to go with one of the three options you came up with as opposed to coming up with their own idea. This is such an interesting conversation. Do NOT leave your belongings at the front desk. Thank you. or Hi, just following up if X and Y has been done yet? i especially like using it when i need help and ive always thought of it as kind of polite way to ask for help, likely from how i was introduced to it. It reads to me like, I expect you do to this. I always wondered if one person at the third office really liked the phrase, and everyone just followed her lead. I own a small business called Archetype Origins LLC, I will send you an invoice if you prefer to pay with a credit/debit card (taxes may apply). This is exactly what I do. Ive worked in three different offices, and this phrase was used by nobody at two of them, and then by virtually everybody at the third one. Early in my job I would give people way, WAY more information than necessary in emails before I realized that this can be offensive and its almost always better to use the minimum information necessary for clarity (not that that is necessarily easy to determine, but as a goal). For some reason, it gets the point across to her that we need certain information now, not later or not ever, *the time between Lucy pulling the football away as he tries to kick it and before he hits the ground knowing that she DID IT AGAIN. Yeah, Ive messaged people to see if they were available for a phone call, but I would say, Can I call you? and make the call myself, instead of insisting they call me. Here you can set your new address email. Like the President will be here presently? its only used when i know theyll do it. Also, just the sheer volume of email I got made it necessary to adopt some kind of triage system, and people who plainly asked for what they wanted from me always got priority. Too much time in food service, probably. will also work. Most people probably don't realize how loaded questions like gender might be on their forms or surveys. Battle #1: people who reply all to large groups with Please remove me from this email list My peeve is no subject line Our HR generalist pretty much NEVER uses one in her all-employee emails, and often her emails are just a pdf with no explanation of their content (usually a flyer of some event) so I have to download it to see if its anything at all relevant to me. See a translation 1 like Highly-rated answerer Yom 17 Jul 2017 Korean @OldGeezer Thank you for your help! We wouldnt say Please advise out loud, because we know how it sounds. should I be so emotionally drained by managing? Same goes for meeting invites received out of the blue with no brief description at all. Sending The flight I was supposed to send this on is cancelled. Im not religious and Im certainly not a Scientologist but the one thing they got right is that they insist that people know what a word means. I admit that I have a visceral reaction to the use of the words please advise (and ALL CAPS and soft reminders and read receipts). Yes, thats always how Ive used it. I do it a lot too. BUT really. Its formal, but thats not the same as passive-aggressive. This. Me too. If both are wrong then what would be the right thing to say. Oh man, Im on several listserves and several times a year someone requests a document, people flood inboxes with emails that say literally, please post and me too and thats it. for some reason i picked up the phrase from there and now i find myself using it all the time, in texts and facebook messages and tweets. One thing you can do, is watch how other people close their emails and steal the best ideas from what you see. Thanks!. I work with someone who uses thoughts? a lot. We also have to remind ourselves that people from some cultures require *more* personal space than Americans do! as is brekky, I think. The only thing worse is the Please advice that I would get from a former coworker (a native English speaker, though you wouldnt know from her messages). I also use it infrequently. I think Thoughts? is totally fine. We use the yellow highlighter feature around here for emphasis, and it works very well. Nor could she understand why having a staff member walk 500m in the dark would be a problem. Yes, agreed. 0. . Im in grad school now and definitely retain the as brief as possible email ethos which some of my fellow students really do not, and I wonder if it comes off as abrupt (and Ive always been on the more prolix side of email writing, too!). I really hate sending those please submit your TPS report by noon, Friday e-mails, but its a part of my job (my least favorite part of my job). This whole discussion is fascinating to me, because at my current job please advise is used a lot. 3. They havent been out plowing the fields; theyve been sitting under the picnic shelter in the shade with the rest of us! In choice experiments, respondents choose their most preferred option among different alternatives. I admit that Im sometimes inclined to send a not-so-gentle reminder by the time Im sending the xth reminder. Let me introduce myself. Ive been trying to figure out what it is about phrases like this that bugs me. Did you make a decision already? } else { of these changes. I tend to think that sometimes when we become sensitive to these types of things there are more issues at play. Not all jobs are client-facing however, so it may not be appropriate for all industries. I had other people read them and they never got angry from my emails, they said my emails read as clear and matter of fact. Im a conduit for information but dont have all the answers. Although Please advise can seem a bit blunt on its own, like most things it does depend on context and culture. please advise as a declarative statement instead of a question is almost always used passive-aggressively. When its just one delinquent person I usually begin with Hey I hate to be a pest but. estimated time: 30 minutes,directly in your inbox. But if my boss asks me to remind another professor, Im going to be inclined to put on kid gloves. On the please advise thing. I can literally count on one hand the number of times I have received a phone call without advanced notice from a colleague. Are these people abusing the cc feature? Its politely collaborative. The seller with an email address above tried to sell tv in UK but never wanted to meet up and show the goods. It does seem a bit babyish, but I usually hear it used in an OMG I am so EXCITED about my upcoming fun event! way that is a bit more forgiving than if it was being used, say, to countdown to a work conference or something like that. If my calls and emails have been ignored, I will politely include this phrase. Or, I schedule a 15 minute call with a conference line and ask them to phone in. Like us on Facebook by clicking the like button below: Share TextRanch on Facebook by clicking on the button below. Please advise is one of a handful of conventions I use to (hopefully) make my emails easier to read, especially if it is necessary to include a lot of detail in the body: Subject line that indicates what the recipient should do with the email FYI, Action required, Question about chocolate teapot spout training, Advice on incorporating milk chocolate in redesigned teapots, etc. is far gentler and is a little more personal if you must put something at the end of the query. Bobby: Jane and I spoke, and we had a question about X. FYI, I copied Sue into the conversation as shes working on Y so I wanted to keep her looped in. We have enjoyed serving you for the past five years. It is a benefit to do this as often as possible. Mmmmkay?. Plus I like telling people what to do. This! It has been an awesome way to improve my English skills. Did we actually want to purchase this item? She was ticked, but it did not stop her. I agree tbh. It would if they had already asked the questions and this was just a gentle reminder.. Yes, but plenty of people use it earnestly: as in, hmm, havent heard back hope they didnt forget but dont want to be a nag. It drives me batty. I also find that, when replying all, it helps to specifically address the people who need to take some sort of action or provide an answer. is also grammatically sound but a bit less formal. Thats right up there with customer service people who say Can I help whos next in line? Fingernails on the chalkboard, that phrase. I think this came up in the open thread recently too. I mean, we all have our pet peeves, but deciding that someone is a rude jerk based on a single turn of phrase just seems unnecessary. For example if a person has not done something huge, dont tell them they did. No one is demanding that you stop holding up an important project more like, I would like to take my break today at 5 instead of 6. (I wont get into the aggravating colleague who copies the boss on EVERY (sorry for the shouty capitals) email exchange between us, which is another reason why my emails resemble business letters I look more professional than she. When my employees come to me, I want them to come with solutions or ideas, not just problems. im consistently surprised/fascinated by the responses i read here, and its why ill never be able to stay away. It looks smart to they forward the email and pass the phrase down Jacobs Ladder. I never, ever, take a no answer personally. I love seeing bitch eating crackers threaded through the various websites I read :-), Thats totally my thing. Im hoping you have more important things to worry about. Some appreciate it so they dont have to take 30 minutes to craft a reply to me. I think Ive probably written Thanks so much in advance too but more when its part of a longer exchange where the other person has already suggested the thing Im now saying Yes, please do that to, not just cold. But she would write EmilyG, there is no copier paper left, do you know where to order some? I really think it depends on company culture. 7. It is a shame April Fools Day has just been and gone, because you could have sent out a great email I am no longer going to be answering the question Can I ask you a question. I have done that one. Please Advise.. I had a co-worker who would do that! Example Answer #2 I am available to work Monday through Friday, and I am very flexible about the start and end times on those days. hmm. So I emailed her that I had tried the codes but got an error message, and ended the email please advise, thanks, Cassie. So now I have a bit of a visceral reaction to that one. Like, Kindly reply to this message by Thursday. Not something thats going to ruin my day or anything, but you could just ask me to do the thing, and Ill do the thing, because Im a professional adult who works hard to meet my obligations. I think theres probably something to this. Please let me know which date and time would suits you best is the most popular phrase on the web. Are they presenting you with new information about something thats typically your responsibility? The second option sounds like the sender is fed up. give you my account number) or a check issued in favor of my person. So? Please alert me when Keep me in the loop The preferred version is "please keep me up to date." It's still a strong, polite phrase because we start with "please." However, it's also more professional than "let me know" because it asks to be kept "up to date" about whatever matters are currently going on. Over the past year you have been a valued customer. This is so interestingI recently had a discussion about this very phrase with a coworker and we had completely different opinions on it. When writing an email to a person to get a time to discuss some thing, what would the correct and polite way of writing among the below two. This answer would please the interviewer if there was concern about the applicant's dedication to the job or ability or desire to work longer hours. Same as something like, what can we do about this? It can be a genuine question or it can be a thinly veiled way of saying I would like you to tell me how to help you not do something like this again.. I always get back with the tardy person and ask them if they need something else/anything before they can reply. Please let us know if gets his speech back. That seems really rude; after all, Im the one who is requesting the call so I should do the dialing. This exactly. Simple, straightforward, and to the point. Possibly in red Killer font. But seriously? if you would prefer. Please advise doesnt annoy me and I use it myself much the same as Katie The Fed explained in her comment. Has Bob accepted yet? (Yes or no) Have you booked that hotel? (Yes or no) How do I save a word file (have you never used a computer before?). I had a coworker that used to ignore my emails about half the time so one day I asked her why. I will have to watch these. It is a broad, general term, however, it can be very meaningful and thorough. Please Keep Me Up To Date PizzaSquared * April 13, 2015 at 3:15 pm. i think if aam has taught me anything, its that you can never be 100% sure of anything when it comes to interacting with other people. Just putting Cath at the end seems abrupt. As a formal alternative, you can try using "kindly inform me if you disagree." "Please tell me if not" works well as a more informal option. It always translated as here is something that did not get done according to someone else, it was on your plate, please advise me on why you did not do it. I invariably had to respond with here is what I did last month, this is when I sent the information, this is when I tried to contact that person and got no response, gosh its oily under this bus. (okay, the last bit was merely implied). Seriously I dont get why this people have to dig through their archives to start a new topic instead of simply clicking New Message. Let me know if you can. They make my head hurt and I can hardly get through reading them! Might depend on the person, but that doesnt sound like a power play. Current Job involves getting buy-in and approvals from various far-flung parts of Big Bank whose employees are generally overworked, overwhelmed, or just dont know/care about Current Job, because Big Bank manages crisis-to-crisis without ever resolving underlying structural issues because hey, why should they? I only use this phrase when I am generally asking for advice, not in a snarky way. Shes lovely, but I dont like the phrase. Serve the menfolk first? EmilyG, can you reboot the X server because it appears to be down and I need to work on Y. TIA! was reasonable enough. Just this morning I had to send out a second reminder to someone about turning in something that should have been turned in two weeks ago. I alwaya say friendly reminder. If necessary it becomes friendly but urgent! To me, its off puttingly brusque to say, reminder, I need this by friday, or your veeblefitz report is late, I need it asap. But then, Im from the Say-outh, where we use lots of words to hide displeasure. Im more likely to say, Please let me know your thoughts.. People arent usually willfully distorting what they read or hear in these situations. Being a defense agency, an acronym was created: V/r. update: is my future manager a bigoted jerk? I used to find it irritating and then people I work with started using it more so there was no point in being irritated. I would like to give some of that advice to the current staff that I manage. In most cases, I find that the person writing this at the end of an email already asked me a question in the email. I tell myself. But they're both correct, they're both natural, and they're both used commonly. I had to Google it the first time someone said it to me, because I wasnt sure if it was supposed to be vaguely insulting or extremely polite. I want to know the context of the meeting so I can prepare for it. Although to be honest, if Im sending my boss an FYI email I usually indicate that. Happily, havent dealt with please advise outside of corresponding with legal counsel. Consider following us @archetype_origins on Instagram for more content, we post on a regular basis. Tuesday, 1/25: 2pm - 4pm EST. This is surprising to me that people are offended by please advise. I see it as completely neutral. E.g, the change request you sent me is asking for A and B. I have the same problem. I know that at least part of my strong reaction to you need to do X by [date], please and thank you is a result of the person/task combination that used it the most frequently in my last job. Friday, 1/28: 10am - 12pm EST; 2pm - 4pm EST. However, the flight I was supposed to send it on was cancelled. Both are perfectly fine, use which ever you prefer! I would be happy to hear irritating, stupid stuff all day, if I was getting paid. I guess they could say, Can I help the person who is next? But that, while grammatical, still sounds odd. If I am seeking a favor, I write, I would appreciate any advice you can offer on this issue. If I am writing informally to team members, I will use Please advise. my pet peeve is when people say please advice. I mean, what other phrase could you possibly use to indicate that youre ready to help the next person in line? 2 I am sending a communication to our executive team and will need their thoughts on how to proceed. Go make a brand new email for your thing and stop derailing others. Good morning SARA! If I was having the chocolate tea pot situation I would write, "Please let me know which option you prefer." I feel like more time is wasted when people try to save time on words and instead use "please advise". Ill confess to using please advise in place of certain expletives. = Sentence Notice that I switched the Verb and the Subject in the original question. This is the kind of comparison Im thinking of. And as an aside, I really wouldnt mind hitting someone with my shoes. ", Thank you so much! OP needs to chill. I dont need to be reminded in the next sentence to please advise. I regularly use please advise and reading this question made me so upset! 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