WASHINGTON SQUARE: Im also curious, hearing about how you created the found poemsare there any poets whose work has inspired or instructed you specifically in this domain of found/collaged poetry, or poetry that incorporates historical source documents?SMITH: I have taught CD Wrights One Big Self, in both the poetry and photography formats, to my students in the past. I think it urges the viewer to submit to the terms and values of the subjects rather than cling to any pre-existing sense of what dignity or autonomy ought to look like. Then animals long believed gone crept down. So I did that with this document, and what I found myself doing was deleting the text that was most specific in reference to England, and listening only to the first half, in many cases, of statements. taking away our, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our, In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Bouncing balls, the kind that lifts nothing. To order a copy for 7.64 go to guardianbookshop.com or call 0330 333 6846. WebTracy K. Smith begins her poem The Good Life with a subordinate clause: Whenpeople talk (Line 1). And, for all their sagacity and poisetheir precise images and finely-crafted musicSmiths poems manage to be, too, surprising and audacious. Its exciting and also a bit frightening to be moving through someone elses imagination and vocabulary, trying to render that work into English with what feels, hopefully, like an indigenous sensibility. I often think of a wonderful Marie Howe poem called The Star Market which begins: The people Jesus loved were shopping at the Star Market yesterday. These are the old, the sick, the people a healthy young person might recoil from. I love the things my students are willing to learn, and the risks they are willing to take with their poems. Did the poems you wrote after doing that translation feel stylistically or thematically influenced by Yi Leis work? I think this is a poem thats about, okay, Im just past that, and look what I can almost afford. You were appointed Poet Laureate in 2017, after Trump was inaugurated. I think now, of course, I feel, and many of us feel differently about that. In its nostalgia for the pastries, the exotic fruits, and the black beluga lentils of her past, the poem invokes blessing and abundance, removed in time but newly desired in this moment when we see. My approach was to expand it, to maybe pull it apart and make it into a poem in different sections, and I looked through some of his letters, I looked through his will, and found through erasure different statements within those documents. This is an essential book, one that should be required reading throughout the land. The theme music for this program comes from the Claudia Quintent. The United States Welcomes You opens with the line, Why and by whose power were you sent? and closes with the line, How and to whom do we address our appeal? It was landing on that parallel syntax that told me the poem was over. Ive been sharing work by other American poets, and readings of my own poems as well, and just asking a very simple question, which is, what do you notice? destroyed the lives of our She is a democratic writer, because her project in Wade in the Water is to curate American voices, particularly those of marginalized people, but also her own, and to situate these within the dark sweep of US history, with all its horrors, its anxieties, its potentialities. It would mean giving space to voices that have long been silenced or distorted. Can you tell us how you composed the poem Declaration? WASHINGTON SQUARE: Im intrigued by the extent to which youve referred to this poem as an autonomous entity: it seems to be voiced, what I read as fear or hesitation. Are there some poems that seem more or less transparent to you, more or less within your understanding and control, than others?SMITH: Oh, sure. Pessimism hobbles anyone who is paying attention. We get collage, erasure, short lyrics, long sectioned pieces; speakers grapple with the Civil War, immigration, faith, environmental damage, motherhood, grocery shopping. Unlike a lot of other poets I was looking at, she has a certain flavor that just really fit to my taste. Tracy K. Smith: Hi, thanks for having me. In Garden of Eden, the first poem in the collection, Smith remembers shopping at a grocery store in Brooklyn that was actually called the Garden of Eden. on the high Seas Each one of us is a collaborative condition, The Everlasting Self puts it.Smith isnt a political theorist, psychologist, historian, or polemicist, though her poetry metabolizes elements of those discourses. Though its not like we have much of choice. Not unlike your previous books, this one feels cohesive even as it encompasses poems whose forms and concerns vary. Consider the everyday poetics of capitalism. I will say it flat-out: I do not like poetry. Capitalism has made a nightmare world, and we can either resist its pressures or chill with our smartphones and wait for climate change to kill us.Along comes Tracy K. Smiths new book, Wade in the Water (Graywolf). 4 (September 2018). Poetry does not really resonate with me. Where I seldom shopped, But if I do my job correctly, they slip away from that transparency and become something more than Id initially thought I was after. I suppose those two choices speak to some of the overarching themes I consciously wanted the book to cleave to.WASHINGTON SQUARE: This last comment makes me wonder about your process assembling a book. Purchasing food, however, leaves the speaker anxious: It was Brooklyn. You know, popular myths that we cleave to as Americans, and there are a lot of poems in this book that have titles that are biblical. And sound helped me devise the poems exit strategy as well. Usually only after therapy She was named Poet Laureate of the United States in June 2017 and reappointed to the post for a second term last spring. Many of the poems focus on history, whether spiritual or political. This is Tracy K. Smiths America, a lyric insurrection within Donald J. Trumps.Wade in the Water begins with the desolate luxury of the ironically titled Garden of Eden. It is set in the dawning century of the neoliberal universe, where everything is a market; the speaker is a thirtysomething New Yorker scraping out a life in the long tail of the Great Recession, a specter that looms over many poems in the collection. I dont think the poems lay out answers to any of that, incidentally, but their manner of exploring these questions feels fruitful.WASHINGTON SQUARE: One of the most striking pieces in the book is the long poem you mentioned, I Will Tell You the Truth About This, I Will Tell You All About It. Im curious about the research that goes into a piece like thishow did you come across the source documents, and when did you realize they could constitute a poem? Curtis Fox: Dr Hayden from the Library of Congress, right? I think it has to do with the joy of losing oneself in something, which is what happens when a poem is really going somewhere. Parenting is such an intimate experience, but we have all been parented and many of us have struggled through these moments when our childrens voices trumpeting their separate identities are both miracle and monumental challenge. Analyzes how the first poem in the book sums up the primary focus of the works in its exploration of loss, grieving, and recovery. This would be a democratic project: a writer who takes it on would have to imagine a community where individuals arent just monads bouncing around the economy but are instead subjects whose lives matter regardless of how much or little capital is attached to them. The ones / Whose wealth is a kind of filth. Lest this ecological connection seem like a stretch, know that environmental disaster haunts Wade in the Water. Those banked poems help me get started, but inevitably the work generated during that intense period is characterized by recurring themes, images, vocabulary, and obsessions. What are you really getting at there? Once, a bag of black beluga Then, after the creation of poems winds down, I get practical and try to clarify, amplify, trim and arrange to the most powerful effect. Teaching is inspiring for me. Curtis Fox: So I wanted to ask you about your time as Poet Laureate, but before we get there, Id like to get straight to a poem. I see it as my job to draw these things out, and offer the kinds of questions and observations that will help students move further into their strengths as writers, and to follow them toward an organic and genuine sense of their own deepening themes and questions. Wade in the Water (Graywolf Press, 2018) was her fourth collection of poems. So the poems change for me too, which is I think affirmation that something real is happening. Men with interests to protect seduce and extract pleasure from a young person, making her believe / / It was she who gave permission, just as patriarchal industrial capitalism has plundered the youth of mother Earth.Those awful, awful men. Her poems pose fundamental questionsabout love, time, mortality, and faith (Is It us, or what contains us? she asks in Life on Mars)and pursue them with imagination, rigor, a bold comfort with uncertainty, and an unswerving commitment to candor and humaneness. Tracy K. Smith: Right. WebPoems, readings, poetry news and the entire 100-year archive of POETRY magazine. Tracy K. Smith: Well, I guess I was really thinking about the moment when our desire to be public people became such a ravenous appetite. And its a way of bearing witness to what is otherwise unspeakable. On the dawning century. But I also felt that, okay, this is a kind of service that I would be doing for the country. Among her current projects is Self-Portraits,a chapbook collection of ekphrastic poems focused on women artists. I think the topic has also just come up much more frequently and relentlessly in the years since Trayvon Martins murder.WASHINGTON SQUARE: Another subject you grapple with in Ordinary Light is belief in God. I think its because i'm not very artistic that it doesn't come so easy. I'd lug I often find that, after working on several new translations, I am driven to write. Smith assembles a collage of bad news, omitting punctuation to create a sense of anxious acceleration: dust vented from factory chimneys settled well-beyond the property lineentered the water tableconcentration in drinking water 3x international safety limitstudy of workers linked exposure with prostate cancerworth $1 billion in annual profit. In part, I think its true to say that the selves Im most committed to in that book are the ones our culture continues to make most vulnerable: women, people of color, the lonely and disenfranchised. But those things came out in this poem. WebPoet, librettist, and translator Tracy K. Smith served two terms as Poet Laureate of the United States and is the Roger S. Berlind 52 Professor in the Humanities at Princeton University, where she also chairs the Lewis Center for the Arts. / The wood was never spent. In Wade in the Water, the first section of Eternity begins It is as if I can almost still remember and closes with trees Ageless, constant, / Growing down into earth and up into history. Any thoughts on the challenges and possibilities of processing (or traversing) time through language? WebMy maker says this poem reminds him of the little groceries and bodegas of his onetime New York neighborhood. But before we get to the analysis, lets briefly summarise the story of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. On the sixth day of Creation, God created man in the form of Adam, moulding him from the dust of the ground (Genesis 2:7), breathing the breath of life into Adams nostrils. What a profound longing ravaged our Several poems in Wade in the Water were written after translating poems of hers called In the Distance and Green Trees Greet the Rainstorm.WASHINGTON SQUARE: Section III of Wade in the Water ends with a Political Poem: a vision of workers cutting grass and communicating intermittently by raising their arms. His arms churn the air. Wade in the Water begins with the desolate luxury of the ironically titled Garden of The first trip was to Sante Fe, New Mexico, to the Santa Fe Indian School and some neighboring pueblos, and I realized this is joy. Elbow sore at the crook The author of four books of poems, she received the 2012 Pulitzer Prize in poetry. I struggle a lot with interpreting metaphorical words often used by poets and underlying meanings behind small phrases. Social media, this idea that if you have a life its only useful or only real if you can demonstrate it, I feel like the beginning of that frenzy or that appetite seems to line up in my mind with that period, yeah. Take it easy. Curtis Fox: Tracy K. Smith is the Poet Laureate of the United States. WebAnalyzes tracy k. smith's "life on mars" as an elegy as a whole with many poems pertaining to death and s struggle with the loss of her father. Her book,Life on Mars(2011), won the Pulitzer Prize for Poetry. If I read a poem about my father, sometimes if the poem is doing its work, you might begin to think about your relationship with your father, even if it might be different from what my poem says. I feel, just this very instant, I chose the title Watershed even before the poem itself had been written. The point of capitalism is to get more capital, which allows you to either procure stuff (things or experiences) or just hoard the lucre, deriving a weird pleasure from that. Its not quite music, but the construction of these two parallel statements operated in a fashion similar to rhyme for me.WASHINGTON SQUARE: Youve said that writing your memoir Ordinary Light helped you work through your own thinking about race. I imagined my Civil War poem would be a one-time exploration of its time period, but when I came back a few years later to writing poetry, the concerns I found myself wrestling with were rooted in similar questions of history, race, compassion and justice. In this book, Im doing that more relentlessly. That seems to me not so much about privacy but about consumerism in some way. If capitalist institutions erase memory and sweep everything into an eternal present of consumption, poetry is a slow art with a long memory and an expansive capacity to imagine other worlds. It teases us; it helps us sometimes, so that what is happening now feels like it has already occurred once before; it bridles adults and happily submits to being largely ignored by children. Or was it just a sense of being spurred to write by the experience of working intensively with language?SMITH: Yi Lei has big questions. Throughout her career, she has been awarded numerous literary awards and fellowships. In this manner, they accumulate tools that can be put to use upon their own material. But even, it seemed to answer some of the questions that come up when we talk about this racial divide. And then we find a way to have a conversation. The something climbs, leaps, isFalling now across us like the prank of an icy, brainyLord. Its been great. The story of that poem is that it woke me up one night. WebGarden of Eden By Tracy K. Smith What a profound longing I feel, just this very instant, For the Garden of Eden On Montague Street Where I seldom shopped, Usually only after therapy Elbow sore at the crook From a handbasket filled To capacity. Are they something you mostly notice cropping up in poems youve already written, or do they often enter through conscious choices like the ones you describe with Watershed and Eternity?SMITH: I tend to write and bank poems slowly for long stretches of time, and then, when I have the extended time and space, or when my questions become more urgent, I sit down to a season of intense writing. Her term will be up in April of 2019. This poem is set in the beginning of the shift in our perspective, this idea that privacy is something that we can live above, in a way. Tracy K. Smith: Yeah, the sense of dark possibility rose to the surface. Its refreshing to hear from a Poet Laureate who holds all of these diverse concerns in her mind and in her voice, from our national tragedy to a four-year-olds refusal to eat her dinner. Curtis Fox: Being Poet Laureate is obviously an honor, but have you enjoyed it? Comprehending, and perhaps steering, its history requires love amid the ruins.Unrest in Baton Rouge underscores this. Although the last section of the book includes poems with a similarly wide lens, Smith also evokes small moments with her children. How did you arrive at the title, and what do you hope it suggests or encapsulates for readers?While working on the book, I had the experience of attending a ring shout and feeling so deeply moved and shaken by the performance of Wade in the Water. After that evening, I suspected that Wade in the Water was going to be the title of my book. What do you try to impart as a teacher, and what, if anything, has teaching poetry taught you about writing it? Film awards like the Oscars often have a best-animated film category, and this is dumb. In Black life, humor helps make the unbearable bearable. It moves like a woman / Corralling her children onto a crowded bus. It is, implicitly, formed out of lives meshed into communities and societies; in place of capitalisms brutal sorting of human beings, Smith proposes another world. Capital exerts its violence against nature and the people who are part of it. We often want more from life than is achievable and all-in-all, thats okay. A few years ago, actually several years ago now, I wrote a sonnet that I contributed to an anthology called Monticello in Mind, that was edited by Lisa Russ Spaar, and they were poems about Thomas Jefferson. Her writing contests the deeply isolating structures of capitalism by imagining self and nation as a collaborative condition, one that must be endlessly reconstructed and defended in the face of xenophobia, sexual violence, economic ruin, social anomie, and political disintegration. Or how you can sometimes see the humor in your own dire or embarrassing situation, and how that can be both frustrating and something you file away under Things that Will Be Funny in the Future. / Pomegranate, persimmon, quince!), even though the ultimate act is to be a good consumer and buy things. Tracy K. Smith has her head in the stars. Can you explain exactly what that means in terms of what you did with the Declaration of Independence? taken Captive Bank-balance math and counting days. Register now and publish your best poems or read and bookmark your favorite popular famous poems. I felt like my sonnet was off, I always felt like there was something I needed to fix in the last couple of lines of that poem. NCTE, Common Core, & National Core Arts Standards. I dont yet know how to classify Wade in the Water. 83 pp.Reviewed by Susanna Lang. And that stage, I want to think of it as a stage that America has gone through. Yet everyone lived with a sense of innocence and privacy. People are leading lives where they cannot afford rich and luxurious things and are ashamed of that, yet they also hold onto fear; they are afraid to let people see their actual status. Inspired by a photograph taken during a Black Lives Matter protest after city police killed Alton Sterling, a black man, the poem imagines a confrontation between state power and another African American body. Onto the darkening dusk. Capitalism, Fisher intones, is what is left when beliefs have collapsed at the level of ritual or symbolic elaboration, and all that is left is the consumer-spectator, trudging through the ruins and the relics.Is there any alternative to the morose conviction that nothing new can ever happen (Fisher again)? Its like having a best live-action award. Mattan Masri- Week 16: Animation is not a Genre, Bella Furst Week 1 | Ranking Chicken and Why Chicken Nuggets are the Best, Bella Furst | Week 20 "The United States Welcomes You" by Tracy K. Smith, Bella Furst Week 4 | "Garden of Eden" by Tracy K. Smith. Poetry wasnt really on my radar thenat least nothing contemporarybut I was taking a required composition course, and in the classroom I spotted a poster bearing some lines from a poem. His comic jogCarries him nowhere. And as many have observed since capitalism emerged (see William Blakes Satanic mills or Upton Sinclairs meatpacking plants), this tends to have baleful effects on how we conceive of social relationships and our own selves. Life on Mars is a very sentimental and intimate book of poems about how an author deals a lost in her life. sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our, In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for. Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. I think in these most recent poems, Im trying to figure something out about the possibility of something like universal oneness. Tracy K. Smith begins her poem The Good Life with a subordinate clause: Whenpeople talk (Line 1). The first line introduces the readers to both the casual toneof the poem and draws them in to the discussion with which the poem is concerned, prompting them to read the next line in order to answer the question implicitly posed in the first. As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give each month. I love you,I love you, as You flinch. She joins me now from Princeton University, where she teaches creative writing. The last lines of the poems final section point this up with staggering intensity: My full name is Dick Lewis Barnett.I am the applicant for pensionon account of having servedunder the name Lewis Smithwhich was the name I wore beforethe days of slavery were overMy correct name is Hiram Kirkland.Some persons call me Harry and others call me Henrybut neither is my correct name. After all, it supposedly makes nothing happen, according to Auden (indeed, imagine a poem changing President Trumps mind on immigration), and it is the literary form for which capitalism has the least use, judging by its small contemporary readership.But poetry that tries to represent individual subjectivity is well positioned to depict life under capitalism and to render possible post- or anti-capitalist alternatives. I'd squint into it, or close my eyes And let it slam me in the face The known sun setting On the dawning century. Her translations of poetry by Yves Bonnefoy include Words in Stone and The Origin of Language. 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